Money Making Case Study
When all efforts to create legitimate content fails, this subject resorts to creating sensational claims which are based on conjecture and hearsay.
Here is how pen master, Patrick Hernan, deals with an obvious lack of foundation to establish a case against a poor devil named "Frederick Mann", on his bizarre public blog.
What is scary about this subject is that, he is capable of twisting your words to make himself look as an abused and vulnerable admin, while providing for himself more bogus blogging content to publish.
And, with over 100,000 weekly visitors, Mr. Hernan must be getting plenty of generous donations to his site.
http://www.sharenator.com/w/patrickpretty.com
The strategy: Write about people you don't know much about, citing unrelated, even ridiculous comments from other places, and lacking of any veracity (if you must) but, keep on writing, as the Google search engine will provide the rest.
Tips: MoneyMakingBrain highly recommends you visit Mr. Patrick Hernan's site and study his method of creating content out of thin air, a method that means more money to your coffers!
MMB Status: Banned from PatrickPretty.com.
No more conversations between MMB and Hernan are possible.
Abstract:
Here is the conversation as it stood on February 29, 2012 (leap day).
It started on February 27, 2012.
MoneyMakingBrain
Feb 27, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Permalink
Patrick, call it “willful blindness” or whatever the heck you want, but just like you toot your
own horn from your high moral ground, I hope you express your disgust at the obvious Wall Street
scum bags who are riding the prices of oil higher and higher every day, while our oil reserves
are supplying perfectly all the demand and without a single Geo-political reason to do so.
These are the real “scum bags” and the real Bernie Madoff’s of the financial world which you
ignore and don’t seem to care because they are protected by “law” to execute this type of
speculative trading. Meantime some small time online marketing maverick named Fred Mann, has your
full attention, in spite of the fact that for 2 years now, nobody has reported any losses using
his program. If you believe the day is coming, then wait for that day, because in most countries,
people are considered innocent until proven guilty.
MMB
MoneyMakingBrain
Feb 27, 2012 at 8:37 pm | Permalink
Let’s see, why I am not going back to your site? Hmmm, maybe because you are there posing as
multiple people? Or, maybe because I am not sucker as you may have people believe. The word of a
confirmed sock puppeteer is as good as that bill of sale for the Brooklyn bridge that you hide in
your drawer.
You never beat me down “littleroundman”, you’re a delusional guy and just a waste of my time. Too
bad because, some of your posts (and self-replies) about certain subjects on your scams sites are
really on the money. However, you lost my respect when you started accusing people without any
proof, such as the case of Frederick Mann.
I don’t even want to start defending anyone on this blog, but you allege that he must be another
scammer since he used to promote Ad Surf. Well, in case you didn’t know, he lost a lot of money
on that program. Everybody knows that and everyone who believes in him, knows that he is doing
his own thing because he is convinced that he can make this type of program the right way this
time around.
So, being another promoter who lost money on one of those programs hardly proves that he is
guilty of “fraud”. Stop being a fool for thinking that he is out to make a killing soon and will
run with the money. That’s misguiding and flat out defamation of character punishable by
international laws. Do you really believe he would have used his real name to do this otherwise?
For what? So some reckless, irrational [self-censored] brain like you can start sensational
threads talking crap about him? Stop being so irresponsible and stick to facts not conjectures.
MMB
If you are a real ‘man’ Mr. “Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington” aka “littleroundman” Et Al, and you really
want to know where Mr. Mann lives, why don’t you have the cojones to ask him that question
directly and in person? Call him this Thursday at 9pm at [deleted by admin]. You can ask him to
explain to you how his “restart” works or why he is doing this program to destroy the lives of
thousands of people, go right ahead if you are a real man, that is.
“Let’s not forget Fred’s offshore credit union Ponzi either. ”
Yeah, show us that link and show me who filed charges against him. I’ll join you on Thursday and
be the first one to confront him with what you’ve supposedly got on him.
MMB
I am going to give you a good piece of advice, Mr. Hernan, no one is invisible to the
MoneyMakingBrain and you need to stop doing what you're doing against this man immediately.
Because if you don't, I am going to make a formal complain to the very authorities you purport
are coming after scam sites and send all the evidence I've gathered so far from posting on your
site and the realscam site. I don't like witch hunts and I am sure Fred Mann can whip your ass in
court for your highly suggestive, provocative, highly contentious and flat-out defamatory
commentaries against his character on your sites.
You can delete my comments as much as you like, but take what I said to the bank. In the end, you
are going to look like a fool.
MMB
LOL, a sock puppeteer is what a sock puppeteer does. Yeah, nobody notices that against all odds,
"Lynn" posted within minutes of the "littleroundman" last night. Did I say I was suing? I said I
will make a formal complaint. Internet cyber bullying is punishable by law. Obviously you don't
know what you write. It's a pattern with you, actually.
Discovery? I thought that proof to his alleged crimes and violations have been already
demonstrated beyond shadow of a doubt and exist in public records. Why would then a "discovery"
be needed now? LOL. Do you even know the meaning of the word? Anyway, "Lynn", "litleroundman" and
all socks, you couldn't discover anything more than you could discover a simple link proving that
Fred ever committed fraud. So, why don't you shut your own yap for good?
MMB
What can I say Lynn? I rather be perceived funny (and smart) than boring (and dumb) like you.
Case point is when you in your silly blog, attributed no importance or significance to the fact
that I can see IP addresses. It's because that I can see IP's that I can tell when you are
posting as different people, duh?
I can also distinguish you from PP's Oil City IP address in Penn, etc, etc. Now, all I got to do
is track your footsteps on other sites and prove that you are just as dubious and conniving as
half the people you mention in your blogs.
And, that silly widget you posted in your site is a big laugh, because like your forum user Okosh
said, it only mirrors back client/user side ip information and does not reveal who is in the
room, or how many IP addresses are logged in, nor does it reveal OS and browser info either.
May not tell me who your name is off the bat, but sooner or later that info does come up. Also,
sooner or later, someone is going to have a motive to sue your behind and when and if you receive
a take down notice, you will also find out that your own ISP can provide, if compelled to by a
court judgment, all your service records which provide your real name and mailing address.
Needless to say that you'll be needing to look for another ISP because you won't have internet
access at home or your office, wherever. Needless to say that your server host will also shut
down your sites down for violation of terms and conditions. Needless to say that if you don't
show up in court and if you failed to produce your own "discovery", you are going to pay a big
fine. And all because you thought an IP address was a big joke. So, guess who will the joker be?
Lucky for you I am not interested in witch hunts. Once again, you have given me all the
information I needed (and you still continue until today). Maybe it's a good idea that you stop
your charade once and for all and finally cease and desist attacking Mr. Fred Mann, who is
innocent until proven guilty. Not going to be repeating myself again.
MMB
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To Lynn at Eagle site:
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How are you gonna get your moo-lah if you don't fix your PayPal donations link, ha? ;)
As I said, half the things you report are on the money, but you have tarnished your image by your
vicious persecution of an innocent man. I hate people who do shit like that and without REAL
proof. Is it maybe because the MMB was a victim himself? Use your brain, God gave you one.
Here is what I replied to you, Mr. sucker face, I am emailing it to you because I am sick and
tired of your meat puppet (or vice verse) Patrick Hernan, withholding my posts to make you look
good:
What can I say Lynn? I rather be perceived funny (and smart) than boring (and dumb) like you.
Case point is when you in your silly blog, attributed no importance or significance to the fact
that I can see IP addresses. It's because that I can see IP's that I can tell when you are
posting as different people, duh?
I can also distinguish you from PP's Oil City IP address in Penn, etc, etc. Now, all I got to do
is track your footsteps on other sites and prove that you are just as dubious and conniving as
half the people you mention in your blogs.
And, that silly widget you posted in your site is a big laugh, because like your forum user Okosh
said, it only mirrors back client/user side ip information and does not reveal who is in the
room, or how many IP addresses are logged in, nor does it reveal OS and browser info either.
May not tell me who your name is off the bat, but sooner or later that info does come up. Also,
sooner or later, someone is going to have a motive to sue your behind and when and if you receive
a take down notice, you will also find out that your own ISP can provide, if compelled to by a
court judgment, all your service records which provide your real name and mailing address.
Needless to say that you'll be needing to look for another ISP because you won't have internet
access at home or your office, wherever. Needless to say that your server host will also shut
down your sites down for violation of terms and conditions. Needless to say that if you don't
show up in court and if you failed to produce your own "discovery", you are going to pay a big
fine. And all because you thought an IP address was a big joke. So, guess who will the joker be?
Lucky for you I am not interested in witch hunts. Once again, you have given me all the
information I needed (and you still continue until today). Maybe it's a good idea that you stop
your charade once and for all and finally cease and desist attacking Mr. Fred Mann, who is
innocent until proven guilty. Not going to be repeating myself again.
MMB
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And since when using a proxy is a crime? FYI, is not using a proxy what's wrong, but what you do
with them, alright? I am the MMB there is only 'one' MMB.
Once again, Patrick your hollow claims fall on deaf ears. The Secret Service as you claimed,
would have gone against the obvious guy here in the USA, and you don't even know who he was until
I brought it up to you on the scams "forum".
On another subject, I can prove beyond any doubt that there exists sock puppetry being played by
Lynn with his other user accounts. The fact that you need to resort to more hollow accusations,
this time it's about me, who is supposedly attacking your site, or your fabricating of yet
another story this time about my use of a proxy to reply here, it's a big LOL and it only
underlines how ignorant, careless and irresponsible your reporting really is.
You can not build a case against anyone based on conjecture. Please, stop using the
MoneyMakingBrain's ability to detect IP addresses, stop deviating from the real issues and be a
man, stop removing my posts. It only demonstrates that the smell of a dead rat emanates from your
site, not littleroundman's aka Lynn.
MBB
@ProfHenry, Show me where being a lunatic is a crime. Better yet, demonstrate for us
scientifically that the actions of a lunatic results inevitably in fraud, and thus, guilty of a
crime to be committed.
Hear how ridiculous that assertion would sound? I hope you are smart enough to understand that my
only problem here is the way this guy Fred gets hammered by a disingenuous self proclaimed expert
on scams without providing any proof in the eye of the law to establish a case against him.
I am really not interested in psychology, nor in your definition of the word "lunatic". To
condemn a man for his views on freedom is as scary as those hypocrites who tell you that you live
in a country of "free" man as a free man. I am not interested in politics either. If I was to
play the defense lawyer, then I would demand all of you prosecutors to present/produce
irrefutable evidence that a crime has been committed by this man.
All I have read and seen so far is conjecture, that doesn't fly even in the court of public
opinion.
Give me some real ammunition and I'll gladly join your apparent crusade against JBP. But,
continue to annoy the MoneyMakingBrain and deviate him from his monitoring duties, and you'll be
the ones to be in the hot water.
Predicting the behavior and condemning an individual, which should be presumed innocent until
proven guilty, is against basic universal laws. God forbid we lose them like we almost did in
WWII.
MMB
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I know you're reading everything I write and you are scared. Don't be, Truth is your savior,
don't you know?
By the way, it doesn't take a genius to see all the resemblances and tactics between you, and
"lynn".
"Pretty" amazing coincidences ha?
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<blockquote cite="comment-22655">
<strong><a href="#comment-22655">ProfHenryHiggins</a></strong>:
...but sovereign citizens are notorious in both this world and the next for committing crimes
against their peers and against the authorities that they themselves often swear by.</blockquote>
Objection, Your Honor! Once again, Mr. "Professor" man is providing conjecture and speculation,
unsubstantiated and lacking of any hard proof.
<strong><a href="#comment-22655">ProfHenryHiggins</a></strong>:
And from what Patrick has been saying, you are yourself starting to sound like you side with
them, against the laws of mathematics and of man.</blockquote>
Right, I must be guilty of something because Patrick says so. Right. The fact are he can print
whatever he likes in his own site, but doesn't make it the truth. And what do you know about
math, Mr Professor? In fact, why don't you go spy on their interest compounding, method bring it
here, and demonstrate why it's a mathematical impossibility to create revenue from matrices?
Heck, why don't you accuse Geico Insurance of a Ponzi scheme, while you're at it?
I have made my position clear since day one on the other forum and here: I don't like witch hunts
and calling people a fraud without a proof that a crime has been committed. There are millions of
"tax protestors" all over the world. Waht are you going to do, create a tax inquisition and
persecute them all? You all sound as crazy as the people you purport them to be, so stop. I fight
for our constitutional rights, and you cowards, would lose in the court of public opinion:
First, it should be pointed out that if you did it, you're guilty, no matter what. So you're not
innocent unless you're truly innocent. However, our system presumes innocence, which means that
legally speaking, even the obviously guilty are treated as though they are innocent, until they
are proven otherwise.
The concept of the presumption of innocence is one of the most basic in our system of justice.
However, in so many words, it is not codified in the text of the Constitution. This basic right
comes to us, like many things, from English jurisprudence, and has been a part of that system for
so long, that it is considered common law. The concept is embodied in several provisions of the
Constitution, however, such as the right to remain silent and the right to a jury.
So, Mr. "Professor", you go read your own literature.
==============================
I'm a having a ball talking to you and the "professor" here, who doesn't know the difference
between a philosophical view from a legal one. Professor, please go back to your elementary
school to teach first graders.
Patrick, I am not threatening you, obviously and I am reminding you that what you're doing can
easily be perceived as a defamation of character. I am doing you a favor, so the blade cuts both
ways. You have engaged, as a last resort, no doubt, in attacking me with false accusations now.
In essence, you're a doing exactly the same thing to me on your own site . The only difference is
that THANK GOD, I am anonymous, and you got no clue as to who I am.
Unfortunately for a guy like Fred, no such luck. One day, (not me I guarantee that) someone is
going to do exactly the same thing and you will know how that feels.
You can ignore my advice all you want.
MMB
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Patrick, if you don't see what I see, or choose to ignore what this "littleroundman" is doing
here, then you must be in on it. Or, maybe you're are just looking the other way to cover for
him.
I don't care. You say you allow me to post? Well thank you!
But, don't insult my intelligence by pretending there isn't a hidden agenda on your site, either.
It's so obvious, and I am truly not interested to find out what it is. I am investigating JBP
too. I am monitoring, getting "real" evidence and reporting accordingly.
However, and I can't stress this enough, you can not make accusations without 'substantial
proof'.
I am telling you, If I were a district attorney, I'd toss to the trash your case immediately. It
just doesn't hold legal water. Yes, I can predict that the moon will a full one at some point in
the month, but you can't apply such theories to human beings. Basically, by accusing him of a
crime based upon the actions, or thought patterns of previous "sovereign citizens". That's wrong
and can't be prosecuted as it would constitute a distortion of the law.
So realize now, that I am fighting for more than a just a guy named "Fred Mann".
MMB
<blockquote cite="comment-22660">
<strong><a href="#comment-22660">admin</a></strong>:
First, why is it important for you to repeatedly suggest that you have the capacity to scare
people and/or that people should fear you?Those things are part and parcel to the HYIP landscape,
especially when a scheme comes under scrutiny. In the ASD case, the ASD critics were called
“rats,” “maggots” and “cockroaches” — among other things.Today, you offer this “insight”:
Also in the ASD case, there were suggestions that a federal prosecutor should be placed in a
medieval torture rack and that a “militia” armed with guns should storm Washington, D.C.The FBI
now says false liens were filed by a purported “sovereign citizen” against FIVE public officials
involved in the ASD case, including a federal judge, three federal prosecutors and a special
agent of the U.S. Secret Service.
One of the prosecutors was the man who happened to be the subject of the “torture rack”
commentary. The judge once was declared “brain dead” if she ruled against ASD.Second — as I have
previously mentioned in this space — I have been subjected to any number of threats for my
reporting on the HYIP sphere.There have been days in which writing about these schemes has been
like walking on eggshells. Over time, I have become more cautious in terms of personal security.
That’s what happens when a person starts hearing from people who call themselves “Mr. Protector”
and “Botnet” and create usernames with the word “villain” and other words designed to chill
me.The reason I am permitting you to post here is to give readers a sense of the bizarre nature
of the HYIP world, which often includes threats both direct and veiled.Patrick
</blockquote>
<blockquote cite="comment-22666">
<strong><a href="#comment-22666">littleroundman</a></strong>:
calling a criminal a criminal, a fraudster a fraudster or a scam a scam is not defamation.
</blockquote>
Lynn, you're not only a major sock-puppeteer, but a [self-censored] one. A very dangerous
combination, if you asked me.
MMB
<blockquote cite="comment-22669">
<strong><a href="#comment-22669">admin</a></strong>:
More conspiracy theories.
Back in March, “Daniel” and “Pokwang” — who posted from the same IP but used different identities
in a bid to undermine my reporting on Club Asteria — asserted that I am an “ambulance chasing
lawyer” whose agenda was the “blackmailing” of HYIPs:<a
href="http://www.patrickpretty.com/2011/03/16/sea-of-incongruity-surrounds-club-asteria-as-ken-
russo-pushes-opportunity-on-talkgold-ponzi-board-world-bank-qualifies-director-claims-made-by-
promoters/comment-page-1/#comment-16473"
rel="nofollow">http://www.patrickpretty.com/2011/03/16/sea-of-incongruity-surrounds-club-
asteria-as-ken-russo-pushes-opportunity-on-talkgold-ponzi-board-world-bank-qualifies-director-
claims-made-by-promoters/comment-page-1/#comment-16473</a>As “Pokwang,” Daniel also had this to
say:“Patrick Pretty = extortionist.“Go f* yourself.”After that, “Pokwang” shifted from English to
a language spoken in the Western Pacific.</blockquote>
Patrick, you're grasping to straws here. I got no idea of what you're talking about, however, I
presume that because I am using a proxy, there is possibility of another guy using it to come
here and post. But, what are the odds of same proxy account? Not good, these proxies are usually
changed every month by the proxy service providers.
So, either you're going paranoid on me, or lying through your teeth. Either way I am starting to
smell a rat here.
Up to this point the only thing I have said that could be considered threatening is that I can
make a formal complaint. At least for an investigation on you personally, for what appears to be
as abuse of terms and conditions with your service provider.
Allowing users like Mr. sock-puppeteer, Lynn aka "littleroundman", AT EL and a silly professor,
to post nonsense that brings support to your hollow claims, are at best dubious, if not
considered "meat-puppetry" out right.
Interesting to see that your tactics match the same tactics applied by Lynn at the realscam site,
both of you make outrageous accusations against people who can't defend themselves, both your
sites suggest donations, I mean, Jesus Christ, this is major blogging abuse, and I hope someone
with more free time on their hands, decides to investigate you, Patrick. Thus, I can't but help
but wonder your true motives to pursue someone like Mr. Mann.
The irony is, I didn't set out to become Mr. Mann's defender on your site or any other site.
<strong><a href="#comment-22669">admin</a></strong>:
The Club Asteria-related CONSOB probe followed about two months later.
There is every reason to believe that “Daniel” now is promoting JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid.There
also is every reason to believe that JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid is in possession of funds tainted
by other fraud schemes, given its presence on Ponzi boards referenced in U.S. court filings as
venues from which massive international thefts occur.Back in 2008, one of the ASD folks posted
that he was a core conservative — but allowed that had my mother decided to abort me, the
decision would have been understandable.
</blockquote>
Who gives a damn about what this "Daniel" is doing now? Please, all you do is sink yourself in an
ocean of despair. Grasping to all kinds of stories and theories that might give support to
something you don't have: a case against Fred Mann. Now, that isn't to say that you'll never
will, but as I said ad nauseum, you have to wait for the day he commits the crime that you are
convinced he is about to.
<strong><a href="#comment-22669">admin</a></strong>:
He then went on to promote AdViewGlobal, which later threatened critics with ISP suspensions and
lawsuits.In 2012, you emerge here with the same type of nonsense about ISP suspensions and
lawsuits in an attempt to chill — all while packing your posts with veiled threats, advancing
conspiracy theories and making a tortured argument that you’re not really making threats, that
what you’re actually doing is something wholesome.Of course, prior to the August 2008 ASD
seizure, the critics were threatened with “slander” lawsuits in the $40 million range. The
government thought that important enough to include in an evidence exhibit — an exhibit that now
has been in the public record approaching FOUR years.One ASD promoter who quickly switched to
MegaLido because it purportedly was “OFFSHORE” tried to chill ASD critics after the seizure by
planting the seed that ASD’s lawyers were planning libel lawsuits. He did it in the most bizarre
way: by tying his threat to the theme song of the television program “COPS.”<a
href="http://www.patrickpretty.com/2009/09/19/cops-threats-laundry-baskets-militia-30-million-
120-million-supreme-court-mysteries-claims-offshore-conversion-rates-and-exclamation-points/"
rel="nofollow">http://www.patrickpretty.com/2009/09/19/cops-threats-laundry-baskets-militia-30-
million-120-million-supreme-court-mysteries-claims-offshore-conversion-rates-and-exclamation-
points/</a>Patrick</blockquote>
Patrick, PLEEZ! Stop trying to create doubts by using your past interactions against me. Can you
this pattern that emerges each time you open your mouth? Besides,I don't know that, and you don't
know that and also what ASD did or still does, I don't really care. Read:
Your Honor! I object as this is irrelevant!
Maybe, just maybe, someone else caught on to what you're doing here, and you pissed him off, so
he threatened with ISP suspensions and lawsuits and in the end, you got new enemies. I don't
know.
You see? I am doing exactly the same thing you do: theorize and speculate.
MMB
========================================
<blockquote cite="comment-22669">
<strong><a href="#comment-22669">admin</a></strong>:
More conspiracy theories.
Back in March, “Daniel” and “Pokwang” — who posted from the same IP but used different identities
in a bid to undermine my reporting on Club Asteria — asserted that I am an “ambulance chasing
lawyer” whose agenda was the “blackmailing” of HYIPs:<a
href="http://www.patrickpretty.com/2011/03/16/sea-of-incongruity-surrounds-club-asteria-as-ken-
russo-pushes-opportunity-on-talkgold-ponzi-board-world-bank-qualifies-director-claims-made-by-
promoters/comment-page-1/#comment-16473"
rel="nofollow">http://www.patrickpretty.com/2011/03/16/sea-of-incongruity-surrounds-club-
asteria-as-ken-russo-pushes-opportunity-on-talkgold-ponzi-board-world-bank-qualifies-director-
claims-made-by-promoters/comment-page-1/#comment-16473</a>As “Pokwang,” Daniel also had this to
say:“Patrick Pretty = extortionist.“Go f* yourself.”After that, “Pokwang” shifted from English to
a language spoken in the Western Pacific.</blockquote>
Patrick, you're grasping to straws here. I got no idea of what you're talking about, however, I
presume that because I am using a proxy, there is possibility that another guy used it to come
here and post. But, what are the odds of using the same exact proxy account? Not good, these
proxies are usually changed every month by the proxy service providers.
So, either you're going paranoid on me, or lying through your teeth. Either way I am starting to
smell a rat here and I don't like it.
Up to this point the only thing I have ever said that could be considered threatening is that I
could make a formal complaint against you. At least for an investigation on your activities
personally, and for what appears to be as abuse of terms and conditions with your service
provider.
Allowing users like Mr. sock-puppeteer, Lynn aka "littleroundman", AT EL and a silly professor,
to post nonsense that brings support to your hollow claims, are at best dubious, if not
considered "meat-puppetry" out right.
Interesting to see that your tactics match the same tactics applied by Lynn at the realscam site:
both of you make outrageous accusations against people who can't defend themselves, both of your
sites suggest donations, I mean, Jesus Christ, this could be a blogging scam for all I know, and
I hope someone with more free time on their hands, decides to investigate you further, Patrick.
Thus, I can't help but wonder your true motives to pursue someone like Mr. Mann.
The irony is, I never set out to become Mr. Mann's defender on your site or any other site.
<strong><a href="#comment-22669">admin</a></strong>:
The Club Asteria-related CONSOB probe followed about two months later.
There is every reason to believe that “Daniel” now is promoting JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid.There
also is every reason to believe that JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid is in possession of funds tainted
by other fraud schemes, given its presence on Ponzi boards referenced in U.S. court filings as
venues from which massive international thefts occur.Back in 2008, one of the ASD folks posted
that he was a core conservative — but allowed that had my mother decided to abort me, the
decision would have been understandable.
</blockquote>
Who gives a damn about what this "Daniel" is doing now? Please, all you do is sink yourself in an
ocean of despair. Grasping to all kinds of stories and theories that might give support to
something you don't have: a case against Fred Mann. Now, that isn't to say that you'll never
will. But, as I've been saying ad nauseum, you have to wait for the day he commits the crime that
you are convinced he is about to.
<strong><a href="#comment-22669">admin</a></strong>:
He then went on to promote AdViewGlobal, which later threatened critics with ISP suspensions and
lawsuits.In 2012, you emerge here with the same type of nonsense about ISP suspensions and
lawsuits in an attempt to chill — all while packing your posts with veiled threats, advancing
conspiracy theories and making a tortured argument that you’re not really making threats, that
what you’re actually doing is something wholesome.Of course, prior to the August 2008 ASD
seizure, the critics were threatened with “slander” lawsuits in the $40 million range. The
government thought that important enough to include in an evidence exhibit — an exhibit that now
has been in the public record approaching FOUR years.One ASD promoter who quickly switched to
MegaLido because it purportedly was “OFFSHORE” tried to chill ASD critics after the seizure by
planting the seed that ASD’s lawyers were planning libel lawsuits. He did it in the most bizarre
way: by tying his threat to the theme song of the television program “COPS.”<a
href="http://www.patrickpretty.com/2009/09/19/cops-threats-laundry-baskets-militia-30-million-
120-million-supreme-court-mysteries-claims-offshore-conversion-rates-and-exclamation-points/"
rel="nofollow">http://www.patrickpretty.com/2009/09/19/cops-threats-laundry-baskets-militia-30-
million-120-million-supreme-court-mysteries-claims-offshore-conversion-rates-and-exclamation-
points/</a>Patrick</blockquote>
Patrick, PLEEZ! Your own domain links are biased and worthless, and can not be used for anything
more than more conjecture. And, please stop trying to create doubts about me by using your past
interactions with a few internet trolls against me. Doe anyone else notice the same pattern that
emerges each time you open up your mouth? It's like being at the Realscam site, only worse! I
can't post before you read what I post. Besides, I don't know that, and you don't know that
either. Also, what ASD did or still does, I don't really care. Read:
Your Honor! I object as this information is irrelevant!
Going back to the matter of your stalker, maybe, just maybe, someone else caught on to what
you're doing here, and you pissed him off, so he threatened with ISP suspensions and lawsuits
and in the end, you got new enemies. I don't know.
You see? I am doing exactly the same thing you do: theorize and speculate.
MMB
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Once again Lynn and all his hilarious characters come to the attack to provide the lacking
support to all the baseless charges against an innocent (until proven guilty) man. Needless to
say that I am not reading much of their noise at this point.
BTW, you should try making your characters a little more 'neutral', Lynn. The fact they all agree
with you and attack a new user who comes with opposite views to your forum is a BIG, BIG give-
away. I don't need an IP detector to know you're using multiple accounts to create the allusion
of general consensus there. Pathetic that an admin has to resort to such dishonest tactics
You are so egregiously obvious, man, it's ridiculous! What seems suspicious is that Patrick,
doesn't even appear to have a clue about all this. I wonder why?
Anyway, writing and editing style is a BIG giveaway too, Lynn. So, anyone reading and seeing an
apparent army of angry "users" posting and calling me this, or that, while not one of this
"users" have had a single conversation with me in the past, it's telltale sign that we are
looking at the work of a silly and amateur sock puppeteer.
@Phoney professor, I would have answered any of your questions, but you lost me after your first
insult. So, if you want to know how that matrix works, go to JBP and report back to us. LOL.
Quite frankly, I don't see what's the big deal with what JBP's got to offer: 2% daily interest
earned for 75 days. WOW! If I buy 10 positions at $10 per position, I stand to make a total $150
in 'only' 2 1/2 months! WOW!!. BIG DEAL! I made $50 for waiting that long.
So, I had to wait 50 'short' days to get my $100 dollars back, and then the rest is sweet profit.
BIG DEAL! Hardly a quick rich scheme.
If someone decides to buy $5,000 in positions, then they deserve to make the $2500, because I
wouldn't put that kind of money online EVER, let alone tens of thousands as you purport people do
everyday. All of this is no better or worse than gambling in Vegas, or investing in some junk
bond in the bond market. Stupid is what stupid does.
Why don't go harass online casinos instead?
MMB
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Not only there are multiple IP detection readouts indicating that you are a sock-puppeteer, Mr. Lynn Edgington or "littleroundman", but your constant use of the word "huffing and puffing" gives you away too easily. Anyway Lynn, as I said before, your writing style and grammar with LRM are identical, and anyone who visits your realscam site can draw correlations between the two. BTW, Whip and Baylee area also all you. OTOH, Okosh and PPBlog (Patrick) are different read-outs, so at least I can draw conclusions that they are different individuals.
I won't answer to crackpot questioning, let alone from confirmed sock-puppeteers because they are deceptive people and don't deserve to be given any attention. So, stop posting noise on PP's blog, and go back to your forum-play ground to attack new visitors who don't agree with you.
MMB
Not only there are multiple IP detection readouts indicating that you are a sock-puppeteer, Mr. Lynn Edgington or "littleroundman", but your constant use of the word "huffing and puffing" gives you away too easily. Anyway Lynn, as I said before, your writing style and grammar with LRM are identical, and anyone who visits your realscam site can draw correlations between the two. BTW, Whip and Baylee area also all you. OTOH, Okosh and PPBlog (Patrick) are different read-outs, so at least I can draw conclusions that they are different individuals.
I won't answer to crackpot questioning, let alone from confirmed sock-puppeteers because they are deceptive people and don't deserve to be given any attention. So, stop posting noise on PP's blog, and go back to your forum-play ground to attack new visitors who don't agree with you.
MMB
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Patrick,
In addition of the obvious posts above, ask yourself: how can a new visitor, with an unpopular view, get so hammered down, diminished, disrespected and insulted by a "group of people" under the "moderator/admin" watch?
Anybody who likes to go to forums, know that, it just doesn't happen that way on legitimate forums.
Oh, I forgot to add user "laidback to his collection of sockpuppets as well.
More mistakes made by Lynn: One of my posted comments dated Feb 27, 2012 at 10:26 pm, drove Lynn (within the hour) to post this at RS: http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/index12.html#post16248. But, he posted it as "littleroudman", his forum. Then comes back to PP within hours, now it's Feb 28, 2012 at 2:48 am, to post in essence the same thing: insults. Both posts show the same contempt towards me and are equally matched in wit; right down to the words: "huffing and puffing".
MMB
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<blockquote cite="comment-22692">
<strong><a href="#comment-22692">admin</a></strong>: Quick note: MMB just emailed me a threat — one of those “do-this-or-else” types.Patrick
</blockquote>
Patrick, I swear, your tactics are almost identical to Lynn's I am beginning to think you are conjoined twins or something.
Stop acting like a juvenile and ask first why. I said that I would post my posts somewhere if you don't post them here. I just didn't realize that my posts were moved to the next page, so I thought you were removing them. An honest mistake.
It seems, you take any opportunity to cry foul play just to discredit what I am saying. Stop abusing your forum as Lynn does, or I am going to conclude that there is a business relationship between the two of you, and that would be bad a thing (I am afraid to say anything else as you may call it another "threat").
And yes, this is not a threat: you're better off having me talking here than somewhere else. I know too much already about both you and Lynn, and I still want to believe that the two of you are men of good (although the tactics of one indicate the otherwise).
MMB
Are you cutting me out of the conversation after you cried that I am thretening you? WOW, you're so ethical Patrick. Or maybe you're just having a big breakfast and I am too impatient for you. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt but knowing that Lynn's post came after me, it's clear that you are scared like a baby.
In case you haven't notice, you've attracted more attention to yourself.
I am not finished here, as I warned you and everyone here, you got no idea as to who I am. Let's see what happens when the top brass at Capital One takes a look at your buddy's forum and reads your responsible reporting on people who you don't even know about. And again, don't distort the meaning of the words, because I am not "threatening" you. If anything, you've brought it upon yourself.
MMB
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enmail to PP
Are you cutting me out of the conversation after you claimed that I am threatening you? WOW, you're so ethical Patrick. Or, maybe you're just having a big breakfast today and I am too impatient for you? I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt but knowing that Lynn's (LRM) post came after me, it's clear that you are too scared of me by now.
In case you haven't notice, you've attracted more attention to yourself. And people will talk about you, Patrick Hernan, what people will. But, when the MMB talks about you, not hundreds but millions will read what I think of you. Alright?
I am not finished here. Let's see what happens when the top brass at Capital One takes a look at your buddy's forum and reads your responsible reporting on people who you don't even know about.
And again, don't distort the meaning of the words, because I am not "threatening" you. If anything, you've brought all this upon yourself.
You could be the nicest guy in the world, doing a real public service, but on the matter of Frederick Mann, you've made a gross error, and you crossed the line, Mr. I am not a passive by-stander Patrick, I am one of those who will come and help an old man from being beaten up by a bully, so help me God.
MMB
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<blockquote cite="comment-22695">
<strong><a href="#comment-22695">ProfHenryHiggins</a></strong>: Anne? Where on Earth did you find a host server like that one? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a web hosting service that only buys its’ own domain for a year at a time before. And with one of the other two websites that shares your own IP number being “legithyip.com,” I’m beginning to wonder if this host and nameserver were created specifically for someone in the hyip industry.
</blockquote>
This post probably won't get through either, but, the same can be said about Eagle Research Associates Inc., and LEGITHYIP.com.
Domain ID:D149852366-LROR
Domain Name:EAGLERESEARCHASSOCIATES.ORG
Created On:19-Nov-2007 04:20:30 UTC
Last Updated On:29-Jul-2011 01:22:27 UTC
Expiration Date:19-Nov-2012 04:20:30 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:CR34262616
Registrant Name:Registration Private
Registrant Organization:Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street2:15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province:Arizona
Registrant Postal Code:85260
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.4806242598
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:
Admin ID:CR34262618
Admin Name:Registration Private
Admin Organization:Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street2:15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Scottsdale
Admin State/Province:Arizona
Admin Postal Code:85260
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+1.4806242598
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:
Tech ID:CR34262617
Tech Name:Registration Private
Tech Organization:Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street2:15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Scottsdale
Tech State/Province:Arizona
Tech Postal Code:85260
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+1.4806242598
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:
Name Server:NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server:NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server:
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Look at the similarities with LEGITHYIP.com:
Domains By Proxy, LLC
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Registered through: Go Daddy
Domain Name: LEGITHYIP.COM
Created on: 16-Jul-10
Expires on: 16-Jul-12
Last Updated on: 18-Feb-12
Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration
Domains By Proxy, LLC
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598
Technical Contact:
Private, Registration
Domains By Proxy, LLC
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598
Domain servers in listed order:
NS65.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS66.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
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Eagle "NS51" & Legit "NS65". They are only separated by a few machines apart :)
MMB
How does that email constitute a "threat" Patrick?
LOL
Not sure if you are a looking like a [self-censored] fear-monger or a [self-censored] paranoid.
Go ahead, print that, if you are man, that is.
MMB
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Hey Mr paranoid. I guess in the end you showed your true colors. You are no crime fighter, but a deceitful coward for sure, always in need of distorting reality to make yourself look good and victimized by others. I feel for you. LOL.
Don't worry I am sure you have attracted enough attention to yourself to last you another week. But, the MoneyMakingBrain does not need your biased blog and certainly doesn't need to deal with another delusional dictator like Lynn, the "littleroundman".
Indeed, Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington and you are making a BIG mockery of internet crime fighting and now much to your disbelief, the MoneyMakingBrain has exposed both of you.
Don't be surprised to find your name associated with the word "PAID CYBERBULLY". "CYBERBULLY FOR HIRE", from here on in. MoneyMakingBrain has the knowledge to make you a popular man on the web on those two keyword searches alone.
Thanks you for showing a new style of cyberbullying, though, it's been enlightening indeed to watch you create content that drives massive traffic of visitors to your site out of thin air. Pretty sure that out of one million visitors per week, 10 if not more throw money your way, correct? It's a numbers game, isn't it? And, thanks to me you're getting paid a little extra this week, ha?
Well, the jig is up Mr. Patrick Hernan, a smart cyberbully who gets paid. Love your style!
Oh, I forgot to mention, every post I write for your site (even emails) it's copied to another one :) The search engines are gonna love Patrick Hernan and the MoneyMakingBrain, yipee! :)
MMB
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Quick note: We have received additional threats, including one that implies that the Blog will be targeted in some sort of SEO campaign.
Patrick,
EXTRA, EXTRA, "PATRICK HERNAN AND HIS MALICIOUS PROSECUTION OF INNOCENT MAN, FREDERICK MANN, ADDS THE MONEYMAKINGBRAIN TO HIS TARGET LIST"
Read all about it....
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Hey Patrick, c'mon that's not fair!
You're posting everyone's links except mine. Let's back-link and kiss.
The MneyMakingBrain Blog only gets Daily Pageviews: 125,000,000
http://www.cubestat.com/www.moneymakingbrain.blogspot.com
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End of Transmissions and Content.
You can visit this blog to read more about confirmed sock puppeteer
Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington also known as "LittleRoundMan".
More to come, stay tuned.
MoneyMakingBrain
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